2011 College Football Megathread

[DetroitStyle]

and ND only beat Michigan once in the RR "era"

 

[DetroitStyle]

sorry mike, but i think my 10-2 prediction has a better chance than um going to the rose bowl......just saying.....:dunno:

I didn't say they'd be going either. But I do think they'll win AT LEAST 7 games in Hoke's first year.... with a win over either MSU or OSU.

 

[CRASH]

'That school in Ohio' commitments are dropping like flies. Michigan benefits, all the bullshit left over goes to St. and company.

 

[Swifster]

I didn't say they'd be going either. But I do think they'll win AT LEAST 7 games in Hoke's first year.... with a win over either MSU or OSU.

No wins over MSU or OSU this year...

 

[Swifster]

And St. & Co. does pretty well with those. Don't count your recruits until OSU is officially punished.

 

[Swifster]

For all of you who think OSU will get spanked hard, you might want to think again. These charges actually seem worse than OSU's. No bowl ban. No loss of scholarships. OSU may see the same thing. If so, does Kalis back out of his UM commitment?

GT hit hard by NCAA: Must vacate 2009 title

July, 14, 2011

By Heather Dinich

Georgia Tech will have to vacate its 2009 ACC football championship, pay a fine of $100,000 and face four years probation as part of several sanctions imposed by the NCAA on Thursday for failure tocooperate in an investigation. There were additional violations by the men’s basketball team for holding a nonscholastic tournament on campus.

What began as an isolated incident of impermissible benefits and preferential treatment turned into a heavy penalty because of the university’s failure to cooperate, according to the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions. Georgia Tech has announced it will respond to the allegations at 4:30 p.m. ET.

According to the NCAA release, Georgia Tech staff members provided information to a football player regarding the scope of his upcoming interview, and the staff did not declare another athlete ineligible after “being made aware of information that raised serious questions about his eligibility.” Specifically, the student-athlete received several items of clothing, valued at approximately $312, from a friend of a sports agency employee. Rather than declaring the student-athlete ineligible, the university allowed him to compete in the three final contests of the 2009-10 football season, including the conference championship game and bowl competition.

From the release:

"It appeared to the committee that the institution attempted to manipulate the information surrounding potential violations involving (the student-athlete) so there would be enough doubt about its validity to justify the decision not to declare him ineligible," the independent body stated in its report.

The committee also noted the university took these actions despite information reported by the student-athlete, another football student-athlete and an assistant football coach regarding the potential agent involvement in preferential treatment benefits. The university subsequently barred the agency employee, a former student-athlete, from the university's training facilities and denied him access to complimentary tickets to athletic contests. However, it did not follow up on the information regarding the involvement of the agency employee with the football student-athlete.

When determining the appropriate penalties, the committee took into account the university's repeat violator status. The penalties, some of which were self-imposed by the university and adopted by the committee, include:

" Public reprimand and censure.

" Four years of probation from July 14, 2011 through July 13, 2015. The public report further details the conditions of this probation.

" A $100,000 financial penalty.

" A reduction of two men's basketball recruiting days during the 2011 summer evaluation period (self-imposed by the university).

" A limit of 10 official visits for men's basketball for the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years.

" A vacation of all contests won by the football team during the 2009 season after November 24, which is when the university was alerted to the potential eligibility issues.

 

[moneypit]

they had to give up the title for not playing well with the NCAA,

 

[Stalker]

you think not being cooperative is the same as lying to the ncaa and a lack of institutional control?

 

[Swifster]

they had to give up the title for not playing well with the NCAA,

And OSU already self imposed that penalty. Unless you're giving up scholarships and are getting a bowl ban, what's the difference?

 

[Swifster]

you think not being cooperative is the same as lying to the ncaa and a lack of institutional control?

When the school is telling the student what to say, yes, I do. No coach was fired. They lost 3 or 4 wins. The NCAA has said nothing about the 'Lack of Institutional Control' in their charges. OSU fired the coach. I could be wrong, but I don't see them losing scholarships if Georgia Tech didn't. And Pryor doesn't need to cooperate with the NCAA anymore.

 

[moneypit]

When the school is telling the student what to say, yes, I do. No coach was fired. They lost 3 or 4 wins. The NCAA has said nothing about the 'Lack of Institutional Control' in their charges. OSU fired the coach. I could be wrong, but I don't see them losing scholarships if Georgia Tech didn't. And Pryor doesn't need to cooperate with the NCAA anymore.

woah woah woah Tressel "retired"

 

[Swifster]

woah woah woah Tressel "retired"

Sure he did. He's waiting for Solich to retire at Ohio so he can continue to kick Michigan's ass.

 

[Stalker]

Interesting predictions here: http://www.betfirms.com/big-ten-football-predictions/

I find the NW one to be most interesting since they make sense. Just don't know if they can beat out Nebraska for that top spot. That being said, NW is going to be the sleeper team this year that no one will think about.

 

[Swifster]

Official 2011 Michigan State Football Thread.

Because there really wasn't that much news during the off season, I figured I'd wait until the Media Sessions that started today. MSU signed a great recruiting class again last February, a good Spring Practice that gets new players into the starting lineup and no off season drama.

They were some disappointments such as former 5 star OL recruit having to withdrawl from football due to a back and neck injury suffered during a practice. Former 4 star recruit Fred Smith decided to transfer over playing time (MSU has a lot of good WR's). The better you get, the more the transfers happen.

The media has said MSU should finish second in the Legends Division of the B1G which is expected. ESPN did a position by position breakdown on the teams of the B1G and MSU graded out second behind Wisconsin. Why graded so high and yet a second place prediction? The schedule. The favorable schedule last year with missing OSU, and having Notre Dame and Wisconsin at home gets a lot tougher.

09/02 HOME - Youngstown St.
09/10 HOME - Florida Atlantic
09/17 AWAY - Notre Dame
09/24 HOME - Central Michigan
10/01 AWAY - Ohio State
10/08 HOME - BYE WEEK
10/15 HOME - Michigan
10/22 HOME - Wisconsin
10/29 AWAY - Nebraska
11/05 HOME - Minnesota
11/12 AWAY - Iowa
11/19 HOME - Indiana
11/26 AWAY - Northwestern

The Sparty's play road games against Notre Dame, Ohio State, Nebraska and Iowa. The positive is that they will never be on the road for back to back games. I personally think the team will be better, but the record will drop to 9-3 with loses against OSU, Wisconsin and Nebraska. I think Nebraska goes to Indy to play Wisconsin in December's B1G Championship game. Now if Taylor Martinez gets hurt early...

 

[hangemhigh]

my money says martinez won't last 4-5 games, just like 'laces. nebraska will find out how tough this conference is, just like penn state did years ago. i predict buckeyes vs mich. state, with the buckeyes winning the championship.

 

[4 cam tbird]

Carnes looked good in the Spring game. We'll be ok without Martinez. If Starling hangs around, which seems doubtful but who knows, Nebraska will have some serious QB depth.

 

[hangemhigh]

it'll be nice to have a big name school like nebraska in the conference. enhancing it's image a bit, sure couldn't hurt right....

 

[moneypit]

it'll be nice to have a big name school like nebraska in the conference. enhancing it's image a bit, sure couldn't hurt right....

yea as a OSU fan im sure you guys are all about image

 

[hangemhigh]

yea as a OSU fan im sure you guys are all about image

well, i admit, we haven't helped that image much.....:shake:

 

[Swifster]

my money says martinez won't last 4-5 games, just like 'laces. nebraska will find out how tough this conference is, just like penn state did years ago. i predict buckeyes vs mich. state, with the buckeyes winning the championship.

Jim, if there ever was a year for you to pull for a 7-5 or 8-4 season, this is it. If they go 10-2 or 11-1, they'll probably keep that coach (they'd have to, wouldn't they?). I could see Urban Meyer taking that job if offered.
That, and they'd still bitch slap UM in November anyways...