2011 College Football Megathread

[Swifster]

Lol Michigan, Florida, Texas, OSU may recruit in the "gray" area, but MSU recruits straight outta county jail lol. Seems like once a week a player of theres is on the news.

I'm comfortable enough to know that other than possibly Texas (don't follow Small 12 blogs), police is more recently connected to players from Michigan, Florida and OSU compared to MSU. I'm sure I could find something fishy in Austin since February.

 

[moneypit]

All I can say is that since moving here since 2006, there hasn't been boo from any of the 5 largest Florida's universities. I think it's safe to say Tim Tebow is far from a felon. I think it's also fair to say, most universities recruite the gray area. This includes Michigan, Michigan State, Florida, Texas, OSU and others. None of these universities are lilly white.

Sometimes the coach has no problem with the athlete, and sometimes he does.

uh cam newton was stealing laptops and throwing them out of windows Look at the arrest records of UofF players over the last few years

 

[97stangv6]

It just keeps getting better for O$U

NCAA investigators are coming to South Florida this week to look into the recruiting of several high-school football stars and the methods of several colleges in doing so, according to a source.

Among the schools whose recruits are in question: Ohio State, Louisiana State, Auburn and Tennessee.

Yes, rest easy, Miami, Florida and Florida State fans. This isn't about you. The schools involved have been successful for years in getting players out of South Florida, and enough red flags have been raised about money changing hands in the recruiting process to merit the investigation, the source said.

High schools officials, street agents, seven-on-seven tournaments - they're all going to be asked questions by the NCAA.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/spo...g/2011/06/hyde5_ncaa_in_south_florida_in.html

 

[97stangv6]

All I can say is that since moving here since 2006, there hasn't been boo from any of the 5 largest Florida's universities. I think it's safe to say Tim Tebow is far from a felon. I think it's also fair to say, most universities recruite the gray area. This includes Michigan, Michigan State, Florida, Texas, OSU and others. None of these universities are lilly white.

uh cam newton was stealing laptops and throwing them out of windows Look at the arrest records of UofF players over the last few years

Here's 24 more since 2005, and I know this article doesn't include janoris jenkins from last september....

JANORIS JENKINS
Charge: Misdemeanor affray and resisting arrest without violence for his role in a May 30, 2009 fight outside a downtown Gainesville night club.
Outcome: The State Attorney’s Office is currently investigating.
Team punishment: To be determined.

MARQUIS HANNAH
Charge: Felony burglary of an occupied dwelling unarmed and misdemeanor battery in late April 2009 for allegedly forcing his way into a Gainesville apartment and punching a man in the face.
Outcome: Case was dismissed due to lack of evidence, according to lawyer Huntley Johnson.
Team punishment: To be determined.

CARL JOHNSON
Charge: Misdemeanor violation of a sexual restraining order in February 2009 after getting on the same campus bus as an ex-girlfriend. The woman previously filed a petition claiming Johnson date-raped her on three occasions.
Outcome: All charges were dropped due to a lack of evidence.
Team punishment: Johnson never missed any time. Coach Urban Meyer said Johnson would remain on the team as long as the investigation checked out.

RILEY COOPER
Charge: Misdemeanor resisting an officer and failure comply with a police or fire department in February 2009. Campus police cited Cooper for not getting out of the way of a moving car upon police’s orders, according to Johnson.
Outcome: The case was dismissed.
Team punishment: Cooper played baseball during the spring, and it’s unknown whether Meyer sought out punishment.

CAM NEWTON
Charge: Felony counts of burglary, larceny and obstruction of justice in November after allegedly stealing a laptop from a UF student and throwing it out his dormitory window upon police suspicion.
Outcome: Newton received pre-trial deferment – common for a first-time offender – and is serving community service and probation time. The charges will disappear assuming he completes his obligations.
Team punishment: Meyer suspended Newton for the rest of the 2008 season. Newton transferred to Blinn (Texas) Junior College.

JACQUES RICKERSON
Charge #1: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in February 2007.
Outcome: Charges were dropped without legal ramifications.
Charge #2: Felony domestic violence by strangulation and felony obstruction of justice after a November 2008 altercation with a girlfriend.
Outcome: Charges were reduced to misdemeanor status, then the Alachua County courts gave him two years probation without proceeding with the charges.
Team punishments: Rickerson was suspended for the 2007 season opener for the marijuana charge, then kicked off the team the morning of the domestic violence incident.

TORREY DAVIS
Charge: Misdemeanor knowingly driving with a suspended license on numerous occasions, including once in July 2008 and another in March 2009 – two weeks after he left the team – that placed him in jail.
Outcome: The July case was closed.
Team punishment: Davis was always in Meyer’s doghouse and hardly allowed to practice or play with the team for various academic and disciplinary reasons, so it’s safe to say Meyer suspended Davis for his crimes.

JAMAR HORNSBY
Charge #1: Cited for misdemeanor property damage and criminal mischief in April 2007 for allegedly throwing a man onto the hood of a car during a fight.
Outcome: Hornsby received deferred prosecution and the charge was later dismissed.
Charge #2: Unauthorized use of a credit card to obtain goods and services, a felony, along with misdemeanor larceny of a credit card for allegedly making more than 70 fradulent charges on the gas credit card of a female UF student who died seven months earlier.
Outcome: Charges were reduced to misdemeanors and Hornsby took a plea deal – probation and community service.
Team punishments: No punishment for first offense, kicked off the team for second offense. Hornsby served a previous five-game suspension, but it wasn’t for the first misdemeanor – it was for selling his complimentary tickets.

JERMAINE CUNNINGHAM
Charge: Misdemeanor battery in December 2007 for an altercation with a clerk at Jimmy John’s Gourmet Sandwich Shop in Gainesville. Cunningham allegedly threw paper cups at the clerk.
Outcome: Charges were dropped.
Team punishment: Cunningham played in Florida’s next game, the Capital One Bowl, but Meyer said he imposed physical punishment on Cunningham, who also couldn’t accept bowl-game gifts.

TONY JOINER
Charge: Felony theft in October 2007 for breaking into a car impound and retrieving his girlfriend’s car, which had been towed.
Outcome: Charges were dropped.
Team punishment: Joiner never missed game time, but Meyer stripped him of his captaincy.

RONNIE WILSON
Charge #1: Aggravated assault, battery and use of display of a concealed weapon during commission of a felony in April 2007 for shooting a semiautomatic rifle after a dispute with another man.
Outcome: Wilson pleaded no contest to battery and discharging a firearm. The felony charge was reduced to a misdemeanor and later dropped. Wilson was placed on two year’s probation and given 100 hours of community service.
Charge #2: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in January 2008.
Outcome: The charge was dropped despite serving probation for his original arrest.
Charge #3: One count of battery and one count of assault for an altercation at an apartment complex in October.
Outcome: Nothing has been ruled on the case, according to court records.
Team punishments: Wilson was suspended for the entire 2007 season stemming from the gun charge, including a full-year suspension from University of Florida academics. Wilson rejoined the team in 2008 but was suspended and eventually kicked off after the third charge.

DUSTIN DOE
Charge: Misdemeanor affray and resisting arrest for his role in an April 2007 fight.
Outcome: Charges were dropped.
Team punishment: No suspension for Doe.

DORIAN MUNROE
Charge: Felony theft in May 2007 when he removed a University Police boot from his car and put it in
his trunk.
Outcome: Charges were dropped.
Team punishment: No suspension for Munroe.

JOHN CURTIS
Charge: Misdemeanor violation of probation in May 2007 after failing to serve five hours of community service stemming from an alcohol citation.
Outcome: Curtis complied with the violation, served probation and the case was dismissed.
Team punishment: Curtis was in Meyer’s doghouse, but he was also injured, so it was difficult to tell why he was out.

BRANDON JAMES
Charge: Purchasing marijuana — a felony — along with misdemeanor possession of marijuana in June 2007.
Outcome: The felony charge was dropped due to a minuscule amount (8 grams); James served probation and community service stemming from the misdemeanor charge.
Team punishment: Suspended for one game, the 2007 opener against Western Kentucky.

AVERY ATKINS
Charge: Misdemeanor domestic battery in July 2006 after an altercation in Daytona Beach with the mother of his child. The initial investigation took place in June 2006 with Atkins facing accusations of felony false imprisonment along with the battery charge.
Outcome: Atkins received pre-trial intervention and both cases were eventually dropped.
Team punishment: Meyer immediately suspended Atkins, who then transferred to Bethune-Cookman, found legal trouble there and died in July 2007 from a drug overdose.

LOUIS MURPHY
Charge: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in May 2006.
Outcome: Charges were dropped, and Murphy had to perform 12.5 hours of community service.
Team punishment: Murphy was suspended for three games during the 2006 season.

JON DEMPS
Charge: Misdemeanor driving with a suspended license in September 2006.
Outcome: Charges were dropped and Demps received six months probation.
Team punishment: Meyer kicked Demps off the team after the 2006 season reportedly for a marijuana-related incident. Demps worked out with the Gators later that summer but never played for UF again.

DAWAYNE GRACE
Charge #1: Misdemeanor charges of battery and theft in July 2005 stemming from a sworn complaint.
Outcome: Charges were dropped because victim did not wish to prosecute.
Charge #2: Misdemeanor violation of a city ordinance and disorderly conduct in October 2005 for his involvement in a fight. Eyewitnesses told police that Grace threw a punch.
Outcome: Grace completed a deferred prosecution program including 7.5 hours of community service.
Team punishment: Meyer suspended Grace indefinitely after the October arrest. Grace later transferred to Georgia Southern.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sp...is-role-in-a-may-30-fight-outside-a-down.html

 

[97stangv6]

Again, as the only large school in the state of Ohio, OSU will get most of the players they want. One guy going to Wisconsin isn't a stampede. I noticed you mentioned nothing about the DB they received a commetment from a couple days after Tressel resigned.

I wasn't going to talk about Powell but since you brought it up again I figured what the hell. You should look up who committed the day before Powell (Safety) from ohio...go ahead i'll wait...Allen Gant (safety) from ohio who chose Michigan over OSU.

It's not just Dodson who is leaving ohio state offers on the table there is Tom Strobel (DE) and Joe Bolden (LB) both committing to Michigan.

Then you have incoming freshman Ejuan Price (LB) asking to be released from his LOI and he was recruited by Finkell! So much for best recruiter...

You also have Kyle Kalis(OT) who has stated that if Finkell wasn't going to be the head coach while he's there, that he would back out of his committment. Bri'onte Dunn(RB) who was suppose to be committed has taken a visit to Michigan and is at Penn State this weekend has stated that if OSU receives a bowl ban he's out too.

Lastly there is JaQuay Williams(WR) who was considered a lock to go to OSU, but sited the things going on is OSU as for his reason to pick Auburn (must have been the backpack full of money)

 

[Roadrage]

I wasn't going to talk about Powell but since you brought it up again I figured what the hell. You should look up who committed the day before Powell (Safety) from ohio...go ahead i'll wait...Allen Gant (safety) from ohio who chose Michigan over OSU.

It's not just Dodson who is leaving ohio state offers on the table there is Tom Strobel (DE) and Joe Bolden (LB) both committing to Michigan.

Then you have incoming freshman Ejuan Price (LB) asking to be released from his LOI and he was recruited by Finkell! So much for best recruiter...

You also have Kyle Kalis(OT) who has stated that if Finkell wasn't going to be the head coach while he's there, that he would back out of his committment. Bri'onte Dunn(RB) who was suppose to be committed has taken a visit to Michigan and is at Penn State this weekend has stated that if OSU receives a bowl ban he's out too.

Lastly there is JaQuay Williams(WR) who was considered a lock to go to OSU, but sited the things going on is OSU as for his reason to pick Auburn (must have been the backpack full of money)

Yeah, but other than that, OSU will get everyone they want!


I don't care enough about college football to give a shit, but watching Swifster say stupid shit is entertaining.

 

[Swifster]

This doesn't mean NCAA laws may or may not have been broken, only that no state laws were violated.

Ohio State in clear over car purchases

By Tom Farrey
ESPN.com

An investigation by the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles of two Columbus-area automobile dealerships found that no state laws were broken in the recording or pricing of some of the used car deals given to Ohio State football players and family members.

Looking at one aspect of players' access to local cars, the BMV examined 25 purchases between 2006 and 2010 at Jack Maxton Chevrolet and Auto Direct, dealerships where salesman Aaron Kniffin had worked. Kniffin has said he sold about 50 cars to athletes and their relatives.


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In May, the Columbus Dispatch raised questions about whether athletes had received special discounts on cars, based on their status as athletes. The BMV did not address whether any NCAA rules were broken -- that is outside the department's purview -- but in its summary report said that only one of the used cars was sold at a loss.

"The only vehicle on which Jack Maxton lost money was a car that had been in inventory for more than 150 days," the report states. "In such cases, the dealership provides incentives to its sales force to sell the vehicles, even at a loss."

In one of the attached exhibits, a BMV investigator notes that the average markup on the cars at the Maxton dealer was $1,211 and that "six vehicles sold at a negative profit."

However, that statement was not correct, BMV spokeswoman Lindsey Bohrer said after the release of the report.

Asked by ESPN if the BMV could provide an unredacted version of the Maxton document, listing the dealer cost of and profit on each car sold to an Ohio State athlete or family member, Bohrer declined, citing state privacy law.

The investigation's report provides some relief for Ohio State, which is in the midst of an NCAA investigation into former quarterback Terrelle Pryor and other players receiving extra benefits. The report noted that it could not confirm that the deals players received were tied to the providing of sports memorabilia or tickets.

"We found no evidence in the dealers' business records that tickets and/or sports memorabilia were included in the sales, and the dealers and their legal counsel contend that the allegations are false," the report stated.

Ohio State documents show that Kniffin received free game tickets in 2008 from an unidentified player. But he denies that he ever gave a player a special discount on a car because of any benefits provided.

"The deals that I did for Ohio State student-athletes were no different than any of the other 10,000-plus deals that I've done for all my other customers," Kniffin said in the May 10 affidavit.

The BMV investigation did not address the use of loaner cars by athletes. Pryor was provided the use of loaners by Kniffin at least three times, keeping them for days or weeks at a time. Kniffin said he let Pryor use one car, a Dodge Charger, for three weeks in early 2010 because his car was in the shop. He allegedly considered buying the others, but never did.

Tom Farrey is a reporter for "Outside the Lines."

 

[moneypit]

the part about "negative profit" is what the NCAA will have a problem with

 

[Swifster]

the part about "negative profit" is what the NCAA will have a problem with

They shouldn't. The guy sold 6 cars at a loss, and 1 was to a player. Dealers will wholesale those cars around a 150 days on the lot. They cut their losses and get other cars. I'd say the player wanted the right car at the right time. When I first moved here, I worked at a Chevy dealer in the B/S. If there was a car I was interested in, I kept track how long the car stayed on the lot. Nothing I wanted lasted that long, but others were wholesaled for the same reason.

 

[97stangv6]

You also have Kyle Kalis(OT) who has stated that if Finkell wasn't going to be the head coach while he's there, that he would back out of his committment. Bri'onte Dunn(RB) who was suppose to be committed has taken a visit to Michigan and is at Penn State this weekend has stated that if OSU receives a bowl ban he's out too.

More recruits jumping the sinking ship! Kalis is offically decommitted from O$U and rumors are Dunn has too.

 

[Stalker]

Kalis is decomitted, but has stated that OSU is still on his list of acceptable schools.

Ohio State recruitniks have been bracing for bad news ever since the resignation of coach Jim Tressel and lingering questions about the school's NCAA infractions case continued to surface. Things might have gone from bad to worse Tuesday night as Kyle Kalis, the only Top 100 member in the Buckeyes' 2012 class, decommitted and re-opened his recruitment. "I did speak to (interim coach) Luke Fickell minutes ago, and I told him I was de-committing from Ohio State," Kalis told Scout. "I want to keep all my options open, and will consider several programs going forward, including Ohio State. That's really all I want to say about my recruitment at this time."
The 6-foot-5, 300-pound offensive lineman holds scholarship offers form Alabama, Iowa, LSU, Notre Dame and Wisconsin among others. He is planning a visit to Michigan this week and, given that the Wolverines have been cleaning up on the recruiting trail lately, that has to make some of the Buckeye faithful a little uneasy.

Kalis is friends with defensive end and Michigan commit Tom Strobel, and he'll likely be in Kalis' ear about what to do while he's in Ann Arbor (like, say, committing to the Maize and Blue). With the decommitment, Ohio State currently sits at eight verbal commitments.

But Kalis isn't the only Ohio State commitment thinking about decommitting. Canton (Ohio) running back Bri'onte Dunn has been on shaky ground ever since Tressel's resignation was announced, and his comments have not been reassuring for Ohio State coaches.

Although some players in the recruiting class seem to be on solid footing with the program, they will no doubt be receiving plenty of attention from opposing coaches. With even Michigan State jumping in on some good Ohio talent this recruiting class, it could be a long road to Signing Day for the Buckeyes.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/30188251

 

[natzke4]

Kalis will hopefully come over to the good guys.

 

[moneypit]

Kalis will hopefully come over to the good guys.

Big thing michigan can tell him is you can start tomorrow

 

[Stalker]

I'm not sure how we could say anything other than that.

 

[Swifster]

And THAT is the advantage UM has. He wouldn't start at OSU, MSU, Iowa or Wisconsin.

 

[Stalker]

Nah. OSU will still get all the recruits they want out of Ohio. they just didn't want a top 100 recruit.

June 24, 2011

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Defensive end Greg McMullen, one of the nation’s Top 100 college prospects, has confirmed his verbal commitment to play football at the University of Nebraska.
McMullen was highly recruited by several schools, and many observers thought Ohio State could have had the inside track on the 6-foot-5, 260-pound standout from Archbishop Hoban High School in Akron. He also does the 40-yard dash in 4.5 seconds..
In an interview with the Akron Beacon Journal, McMullen said: “It just feels right. It’s more like a friend I see in them. That’s how I feel when I talk to Nebraska. I know what’s going on there.’’
He also referenced Ohio State’s troubled football program as “a black hole” and a program he didn’t want to be involved in.
Coach Jim Tressel recently resigned in the face of scandals involving Ohio State players receiving improper gratuities, and / or engaging in improper conduct. Tressel was caught concealing information about the situation.
The NCAA is expected to sanction the Buckeyes. In February, McMullen said he was considering Ohio State, Nebraska, Notre Dame, West Virginia and Alabama.

http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2011/06/24/4e0463b004baf

 

[Swifster]

Nah. OSU will still get all the recruits they want out of Ohio. they just didn't want a top 100 recruit.

Kalis has said he hasn't ruled out playing at OSU. So who knows.

 

[moneypit]

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...e-ncaa-response-vacate-victories-sugar-bowl/1


and its like 2010 never existed, MSU is now up to 1/2 a big ten championship

 

[jsxtreme]

2010 season? What 2010 season?

http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...8-ohio-state-pleads-case-to-ncaa.html?sid=101

 

[Stalker]

Wow. how big of a finger can they point at Tressel?

The responsibility is upon Tressel. No other institutional personnel were aware" of the violations, and the former coach failed in his obligation to report them, the response says. "The institution is embarrassed by the actions of Tressel."

Really? I mean he's obviously involved, but the attempt to not get slapped with lack of institutional control is astounding.