10k to buy a truck / SUV to tow a race car. What do you choose?

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X1000, but Its gonna be tough To find a Clean 7.3 for 10k!

OP... Id Get a 99-03.5 Superduty with a 7.3 they can be had reasnably Cheap these days!
Actually darko has one that needs some bodywork, but it runs good and is cheap. for The money Saved you can clean it up nicely!
 
Seriously the people talking about towing a car with A CAR are retarded. Theres a reason you hear about towing accidents and stupid stories. NOTHING on a CAR is designed to haul weight like that. Its always funny to ride around the pits at the track and see what kinda stupid setups are there. Ill be the asshole and say it, if you have a car that needs to be towed around and cant afford a tow rig/trailer and cant afford the cost of upkeep on that and fuel, you shouldnt own a car that needs to be towed.
 
Seriously the people talking about towing a car with A CAR are retarded. Theres a reason you hear about towing accidents and stupid stories. NOTHING on a CAR is designed to haul weight like that. Its always funny to ride around the pits at the track and see what kinda stupid setups are there. Ill be the asshole and say it, if you have a car that needs to be towed around and cant afford a tow rig/trailer and cant afford the cost of upkeep on that and fuel, you shouldnt own a car that needs to be towed.

couldnt agree with you more jamie..

look into a nice 1/2 ton pick up.. if your not towing all the time it will work plenty fine for you.. however u may be able to find a 3/4 ton for the same price with similar miles but it may not get as good of fuel mileage..
 
Im in the same boat but I'm towing maybe 3 times a year....ive been looking at trailblazers, 1500 trucks, and even hemi magnums.....ill be using the tow vehicle as a dd too so i want to also enjoy driving it with 15mpg or more..... i thought lightnings only picked up 14 mpg max not towing.

I usually got 15.5 not towing. Still got 12-14 towing depending on where I was and how nice I was trying to be to the trans.
 
Seriously the people talking about towing a car with A CAR are retarded. Theres a reason you hear about towing accidents and stupid stories. NOTHING on a CAR is designed to haul weight like that. Its always funny to ride around the pits at the track and see what kinda stupid setups are there. Ill be the asshole and say it, if you have a car that needs to be towed around and cant afford a tow rig/trailer and cant afford the cost of upkeep on that and fuel, you shouldnt own a car that needs to be towed.


I guess it depends on the car, I have worked on some 70s cars that had what looked like 1/2 ton truck brakes front and back lol. And really a crownvic/marauder/impala are comparable to some half ton pick up trucks. I don't think i would tow a car with a car because I have a truck... but the CV/MM/IMP-Caprice both have full frames, adequate brakes, adequate trans/cooling capabilities, weigh the same as a RCSB pickup, and surely make enough power.. suspension might need to be beefed a little bit though. I have seen plenty of pics of old drag cars back in the day being hauled by cars.
 
You cannot beat a diesel...
  • New F150 (non eco boost) gets 17-18 mpg not towing city maybe 22 freeway - this is real life not stupid epa ratings. I do testing for the epa i will tell you you will NEVER encounted the conditions in which they figure that rating NEVER!
  • New rams 11-14 city maybe 20 freeway.. My dads 2011 gets 13 city 15 freeway and 9 when you put a trailer behind it.
  • Chevy 1500's seem to get 15-18 city an 20's freeway..

Both my diesel I've owned have never got less than 17 city.. 23-26 freeway and never anything lower than 14 towing anything.

My 05 right now (mind you its winter and mileage on diesels is low in the winter) gets 18-20 city, I do not drive it like a old man either, its all stock except the cat being gutted, a egr delete and a 58v FICM.

No after market exhaust, no tunner, no intake mods nothing... If I added a tuner and some exhuast I'd expect to see another 2-3 better.

My co-workers 06 F250 lariat (things load all bells n whistles) gets 19-20 city.. its completely stock.



A diesel will run 500,000 miles + if maintained correctly
A gas truck might get you 250,000 if you really keep up on it and got a "good" one of the bunch

A diesel will tow anything and not frett about it.
They hold thier value massivly compared to gas trucks.

An you feel like a man driving them, there not some prissy glorified ride like a car wanna be truck that if you put four sheets of drywall in the bumpers draging leaving lowes unless you add some load carring assit device.
 
I was in the same boat about 6 months ago and ended up getting a E350 7.3 Turbo Diesel Van - I frekin love that thing. It gets great mileage and tows like a champ - I am in it for about 7k total. Its an ex city of Detroit maintenance vehicle.
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I guess it depends on the car, I have worked on some 70s cars that had what looked like 1/2 ton truck brakes front and back lol. And really a crownvic/marauder/impala are comparable to some half ton pick up trucks. I don't think i would tow a car with a car because I have a truck... but the CV/MM/IMP-Caprice both have full frames, adequate brakes, adequate trans/cooling capabilities, weigh the same as a RCSB pickup, and surely make enough power.. suspension might need to be beefed a little bit though. I have seen plenty of pics of old drag cars back in the day being hauled by cars.

BINGO and 1BadSn95 you don`t know what the fuck your talking about..... my stock 95 impala ss has a full frame just like my 2w/d 1/2 ton chevy truck and my impala pulls faster and nicer and gets better gas milage then my 1/2 Chevy truck with a 350ci motor. My Impala has oil cooler, trans cooler and gets 17 city and 27 highway and i did not do anything to the syspension and went 14.82 in the 1/4 stock..............beat that.............Wheres all the Crown vic and Marauder guys at now ??? Also the 2003 2004 Marauders are slower and get worse gas milage than a 1995-1996 Impala/Caprice................yep flame suit is over there and ready ..lol
 
Is it just me or is it at least a little important to have your tow vehicle be at least a slightly heavier than whats being towed behind? I'm no genius but i would think that towing the impala with the impala and you find yourself in a situation where stopping distance and safety come into play, youd be in big trouble. Im sure the impala tows well with bigger oil and trans cooler, but can it really stop safely? Honestly, I'm no trying to be a dick. Im just thinking in my head how can a car try to safely stop twice its weight PLUS a trailer and any gear? I guess the only alternative would be to have a really well functioning trailer brake? is that what you have?
 
Is it just me or is it at least a little important to have your tow vehicle be at least a slightly heavier than whats being towed behind? I'm no genius but i would think that towing the impala with the impala and you find yourself in a situation where stopping distance and safety come into play, youd be in big trouble. Im sure the impala tows well with bigger oil and trans cooler, but can it really stop safely? Honestly, I'm no trying to be a dick. Im just thinking in my head how can a car try to safely stop twice its weight PLUS a trailer and any gear? I guess the only alternative would be to have a really well functioning trailer brake? is that what you have?

Do you not think that most legal tow combos don't have the trailer weighing more then the tow vehicle?
 
BINGO and 1BadSn95 you don`t know what the fuck your talking about..... my stock 95 impala ss has a full frame just like my 2w/d 1/2 ton chevy truck and my impala pulls faster and nicer and gets better gas milage then my 1/2 Chevy truck with a 350ci motor. My Impala has oil cooler, trans cooler and gets 17 city and 27 highway and i did not do anything to the syspension and went 14.82 in the 1/4 stock..............beat that.............Wheres all the Crown vic and Marauder guys at now ??? Also the 2003 2004 Marauders are slower and get worse gas milage than a 1995-1996 Impala/Caprice................yep flame suit is over there and ready ..lol
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Lets be realistic tho, its not an ideal tow vehical by any means. Yeah, it might work and might be okay, but its not the best thing u could by for 10k to pull. What happens when he wants to pull his car from a shop back home in the winter? And yes I know quite a bit about trucks, trailers, whats ideal, whats not realistic. I pull trailers 5-6 days a week in the city and highway. Wasnt trying to be a dick towards you but i couldnt disagree more with the setup. Sorry.


Is it just me or is it at least a little important to have your tow vehicle be at least a slightly heavier than whats being towed behind? I'm no genius but i would think that towing the impala with the impala and you find yourself in a situation where stopping distance and safety come into play, youd be in big trouble. Im sure the impala tows well with bigger oil and trans cooler, but can it really stop safely? Honestly, I'm no trying to be a dick. Im just thinking in my head how can a car try to safely stop twice its weight PLUS a trailer and any gear? I guess the only alternative would be to have a really well functioning trailer brake? is that what you have?

Most of the time, load + trailer weight > tow vehical weight. Trailer brakes, sway bars and load leveling setups make life a lot easier. Trailer brakes are a law to have on any tandem axle trailer.

Do you not think that most legal tow combos don't have the trailer weighing more then the tow vehicle?

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Is it just me or is it at least a little important to have your tow vehicle be at least a slightly heavier than whats being towed behind? I'm no genius but i would think that towing the impala with the impala and you find yourself in a situation where stopping distance and safety come into play, youd be in big trouble. Im sure the impala tows well with bigger oil and trans cooler, but can it really stop safely? Honestly, I'm no trying to be a dick. Im just thinking in my head how can a car try to safely stop twice its weight PLUS a trailer and any gear? I guess the only alternative would be to have a really well functioning trailer brake? is that what you have?

NO! My parents used to tow a 31Ft travel trailer with a Chrysler Station wagon. OUtweighed by atleast 2K pounds, worked fine for many years. Now they have a F250 at about 7K pounds, and thier current tag trailer weighs 12k. Pulls like a dream. Properly set up tow vehicles and coupling are key. Most tow vehicles are far outweighed by their load. Hell the new dually trucks are rated for what 18K plus?
 
Is it just me or is it at least a little important to have your tow vehicle be at least a slightly heavier than whats being towed behind? I'm no genius but i would think that towing the impala with the impala and you find yourself in a situation where stopping distance and safety come into play, youd be in big trouble. Im sure the impala tows well with bigger oil and trans cooler, but can it really stop safely? Honestly, I'm no trying to be a dick. Im just thinking in my head how can a car try to safely stop twice its weight PLUS a trailer and any gear? I guess the only alternative would be to have a really well functioning trailer brake? is that what you have?

It's just you :D

Your Impala comments don't help your argument either. A 2WD SCSB pickup (upwards of 7000# OE rated towing capacity) of the same vintage as the Impala actually weighs LESS than the Impala.
If you do the tale of the tape on the two, they really aren't that different. 12" front brakes. 350 small block, low 3.xx axle (90's GM trucks were often 3.08-3.42), 8.5" 10 bolt. Full frame. If you add bags to the rear of the Impala/Caprice, it's a VERY good tow rig. Another friend runs a 1994 Roadmaster wagon for his tow rig. Hauls his 96 SS all over the midwest, even to VIR.

Think the 80,000 Semi's on the road are 45,000 trucks with 35,000# trailer?

front/rear weight distribution on the tow vehicle is important, as is cooling and brake capacity. Brake capacity is one of the reasons it's MI law to have brakes on every trailer axle for trailers over a certain gross (5000# I think). Makes beefing up the brakes on the tow vehicle less necessary if the trailer can provide its own braking. Load displacing, trunnion style hitches leverage some of the tongue weight to the front wheels of the tow vehicle.

Go to Europe, they push the tow vehicle-trailer weight difference to higher levels. The "safe" trailering requirements here in the US are very conservative compared to Europe. I'm not buying or selling, but Merc and Audi Sedans are common tow rigs in Germany. Saw an Audi S4 (19" wheels and everything) in tow-rig duty at the Nurburgring. He had a 2500# GTI on a steel open trailer.. I figure he had somewhere around 3500-4000# gross in tow.

My current tow rig (Sierra Denali) is 5200 ish # curb, and has an OEM rating for 8500# towing capacity. I know the brakes and cooling system can handle more since they are the same bits as on the 1500 Silverado's with 10,000# towing capacity.

TO the OP..

If you can get around the fact that it's a VAN, Van's are great tow rigs, and usually go for less $$ used than a comparable pickup. You have more room for secure parts/tool storage and or sleeping space. You can drive to the track on the weekend, and live in it (down by the river of course) during the week :D A Dmax or PS Van is something worth looking into.
 
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Good lord whatever you do, DO NOT tow with a Reg cab Short box truck you will hate life.. that short of wheelbase any trailer over 12' will make you its bitch! a good comfortable ride a ex cab std box or long box. fullsize vans. my dad has a crew cab shortbox GMC and I have a ex cav std box. they have the same wheelbase and same overall length! mines a 2500HD 4x4 his is a 1500 4x2 they both tow our 18' car hauler with a truck and a quad just fine no overheated trans no sway. wheelbase is your friend when towing a trailer..
 
Good lord whatever you do, DO NOT tow with a Reg cab Short box truck you will hate life.. that short of wheelbase any trailer over 12' will make you its bitch! a good comfortable ride a ex cab std box or long box. fullsize vans. my dad has a crew cab shortbox GMC and I have a ex cav std box. they have the same wheelbase and same overall length! mines a 2500HD 4x4 his is a 1500 4x2 they both tow our 18' car hauler with a truck and a quad just fine no overheated trans no sway. wheelbase is your friend when towing a trailer..

Not that I notice this stuff regularly, but it's funny you changed your Avatar to your truck today.. :D Show off.

I mostly agree wheelbase helps. I've towed with SCSB, SCLB, CCSB, Caprice's and Vans, Trailblazer SS (sweet tow rigs, BTW). SCSB is nice when backing up a trailer. I actually like shorter wheelbase trucks for that reason. Nothing sucks more than having a long wheelbase truck with a short trailer... Manuevering my 4x8 trailer with my SCLB truck sucked mostly because of the wheelbase thing... but also because it was easy to lose the trailer behind the tailgate.

A swaybar on the tongue tames big trailers best, except for 5th wheels.

Sway on the trailer is harder to manage if your steering/suspension is loose on the truck. Tight steering box, stiff tires, and good shocks help big time. I've seen guys put panhard rods on leaf spring trucks too. Tames long trailers very very well.
 
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