Yep, the world has gone insane

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$72,000 for a…..
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anyone who pays a 20k market value adjustment on that. well they deserve it. because they are an idiot
 
It’s bonkers. Tacos have always had great resale, but right now people are selling 2-4 year old Tacomas with 20k-50k miles for original MSRP.

I paid $8k for my 1997 with 105k miles and could probably get $12k-$15k for it


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Supply and demand. Dealers don’t have cars to sell.
Salesman are on furlough till September.
Taking deposits now for new trucks in Feb 2022.
 
Unpopular opinion (maybe), but $50k for the MSRP is $20k too high.

Also, the dealer can fuck right off with the extra dealer added crap anyway.
 
This crap isn't going to last much longer.

inflation is at 4.2% - that is double what it should be.

We're heading to a hard recession.
 
When you close the driver side door of any vehicle pretending to be a truck... it should sound like hitting the sweet spot on you best strike throw in bowling ever. If there is ever any hint of kicking a miller lite or a mich utrla can down the round... it's not a truck. We tried to explain that to the people that were soooo proud to have their Japanese pick up trucks manufactured in Texas at the auto show when there first appeared and they didn't get it. I simply replied with my 2004 has never been on the farm but it has more scares than any vehicle you will ever sell. If you want to hook three of your trucks right now on the street... I'll show you a farm truck. They we're not interested. They still aren't interested. Thanks to Livernois for the dyno graph that stills spooks people, 17 years later. :) The things we do with the grocery getters when to real toys are in progress. :)j By the way, 17 years later and the damn Alisson A1000 won't die to justify a new trans. :)
 
New dream is a top of the line hummer... and hooking up to three Cyber Trucks and jacking them up in the front of Elon's house. :) Dream big... or go home. :)
 
2001-WS6 said:
When you close the driver side door of any vehicle pretending to be a truck... it should sound like hitting the sweet spot on you best strike throw in bowling ever. If there is ever any hint of kicking a miller lite or a mich utrla can down the round... it's not a truck. We tried to explain that to the people that were soooo proud to have their Japanese pick up trucks manufactured in Texas at the auto show when there first appeared and they didn't get it. I simply replied with my 2004 has never been on the farm but it has more scares than any vehicle you will ever sell. If you want to hook three of your trucks right now on the street... I'll show you a farm truck. They we're not interested. They still aren't interested. Thanks to Livernois for the dyno graph that stills spooks people, 17 years later. :) The things we do with the grocery getters when to real toys are in progress. :)j By the way, 17 years later and the damn Alisson A1000 won't die to justify a new trans. :)
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I remember when the Tundra came out (the Texas one) people were driving their quads and snowmobiles across the tailgate, and the tailgates were folding right up and bending. We looked at the tailgate at the Detroit Auto show, and the top half wasn't even spot welded, it was glued with body sealer, with the only welds being down by the hinge. I am not saying that Toyota builds bad stuff, because they build a high level of quality. But they don't get how we use them in the USA, and you get problems like the tailgate. I am sure they learned their lesson now on that issue, but if you have any extreme usage, you are taking a risk, because they might still be learning.

-Geoff
 
A coworker of mine bought his mother the small Toyota SUV, Rav 4 I think. He was looking at 1-2 years old and they were selling for the same a new one was.
 
WhiteHawk said:
I remember when the Tundra came out (the Texas one) people were driving their quads and snowmobiles across the tailgate, and the tailgates were folding right up and bending. We looked at the tailgate at the Detroit Auto show, and the top half wasn't even spot welded, it was glued with body sealer, with the only welds being down by the hinge. I am not saying that Toyota builds bad stuff, because they build a high level of quality. But they don't get how we use them in the USA, and you get problems like the tailgate. I am sure they learned their lesson now on that issue, but if you have any extreme usage, you are taking a risk, because they might still be learning.

-Geoff
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I desperately want to find a used Tundra.The new ones coming out
will be turbo V6's. I want a 5.7
 
Just sold our 2014 Durango with 84,000 miles on it that looked rough (Wife loves to hold onto her key ring which has about 3000 key rings on it and 2 keys, as she walks down the side of the vehicle. Talk about death by a thousand papercuts. Add to it a 4 year old and 10 year old who believe the inside of a vehicle is their own personal testing ground for how much shit can we just drop and it was really bad) for 22,000. Used the money and bought her an Expedition
 
2001-WS6 said:
When you close the driver side door of any vehicle pretending to be a truck... it should sound like hitting the sweet spot on you best strike throw in bowling ever. If there is ever any hint of kicking a miller lite or a mich utrla can down the round... it's not a truck. We tried to explain that to the people that were soooo proud to have their Japanese pick up trucks manufactured in Texas at the auto show when there first appeared and they didn't get it. I simply replied with my 2004 has never been on the farm but it has more scares than any vehicle you will ever sell. If you want to hook three of your trucks right now on the street... I'll show you a farm truck. They we're not interested. They still aren't interested. Thanks to Livernois for the dyno graph that stills spooks people, 17 years later. :) The things we do with the grocery getters when to real toys are in progress. :)j By the way, 17 years later and the damn Alisson A1000 won't die to justify a new trans. :)
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WhiteHawk said:
I remember when the Tundra came out (the Texas one) people were driving their quads and snowmobiles across the tailgate, and the tailgates were folding right up and bending. We looked at the tailgate at the Detroit Auto show, and the top half wasn't even spot welded, it was glued with body sealer, with the only welds being down by the hinge. I am not saying that Toyota builds bad stuff, because they build a high level of quality. But they don't get how we use them in the USA, and you get problems like the tailgate. I am sure they learned their lesson now on that issue, but if you have any extreme usage, you are taking a risk, because they might still be learning.

-Geoff
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I don't have any experience with new Toyotas. But the 80s/90s/2000s Toyotas are built like absolute tanks. Far superior to domestic trucks and SUVs of the era

Watch this and try not to be amazed

Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl1FNX08HFc

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUWMc92W1wQ

Part 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes
 
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DetroitStyle said:
I don't have any experience with new Toyotas. But the 80s/90s/2000s Toyotas are built like absolute tanks. Far superior to domestic trucks and SUVs of the era

Watch this and try not to be amazed

Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl1FNX08HFc

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUWMc92W1wQ

Part 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes
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I was hoping this would be the Hilux videos from WD. Imagine how long that thing would last under “normal use”.
 
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