What has 2000HP, runs a mid 6-sec quarter mile time, and goes over 300mph?

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This thing:

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All right, so pipe dream might be a little strong – after all, the computer you're probably reading this post on was once a pipe dream less than a decade ago. But color us shocked at the number of supercar start-ups that have lately been claiming they're going to erase any thought of Michael Jackson when the word "Thriller!" pops up in conversation. Next in line we have Transtar Racing which, with little more than a template web site, stock photography and a few renderings is already "proud to introduce America's greatest, most powerful, world record-setting Supercar: the Dagger GT."

The supercar itself is a custom-designed, 3,000-pound two-seat roadster with a 2,000-horsepower engine. That powerplant would (will?) be the work of Tom Nelson, who builds a wide range of 1,000-plus hp mills for all manner of go-fast conveyances. With those specs and, we're guessing, some number crunching, Transtar has listed "calculated*" performance specs: 0-to-60 in 1.5 seconds, 0-to-60-to-0 in four seconds, 1/4-mile in 6.6 seconds at 204 mph, and a top speed of 314 miles-per-hour.

That isn't merely heady performance, that's fainty. But when it takes a Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Super Sport and its billions in product development and testing to set a land speed record of 267.81 mph, we'll need the entire Bonneville Salt Flats to swallow the Dagger GT's 314 mph claim. Oh, and the Transtar team boasts of a "No Risk Policy – No R&D" philosophy; since they're assembling parts that have already been proven in other applications, they don't need to spend ridiculous sums testing how they work together in the Dagger GT. That's for suckers, apparently.

We're not saying the Dagger GT won't ever exist. But we'll be visiting our great grandkids on Mars by the time a street-legal Dagger GT with a one-year/12,000-mile warranty for retail sale does 314 mph. (And yes, Transtar, that is a challenge...) While we wait, you can have a look at it in the gallery of high-res pics below.

I love their "calculated" numbers :lol:

Source:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/06/transtar-dagger-gt-is-a-2-000-hp-pipe-dream/
 
seeing as they are having Nelson racing engines do the engine, the HP won't be an issue. Can they put the power down? we'll see. At least we know it'll be some badass american muscle in there :D
 
Yeah calculations...

how do you calculate getting all that power to the wheels?
Well without melting the tires?

I love all the ideas that are out there though...
Goes to show the new EPA rules are not stopping people from dreaming...
 
Total pipe dream. Willing to take any and all bets.

x4000

It takes a completely different car to go mid 6's as it takes to go over 300mph. That car's not going to do either of them.

What I bet it will do is stomp the hell out of the dyno and give the dyno nerds something to be happy about. Nelson racing engines can make the power, 2k HP isn't super hard anymore if you have the budget.
 
Just because somebody understands engines, doesn't necessarily mean that they understand aerodynamics.

Just from the simple end of it... the McLaren F1 goes 231mph with 600hp. The Bugatti Veyron does 250mph with 1000hp. So they picked up 20mph with the extra 400hp. Knowing that it's curve and not a straight line when you calculate HP to MPH, that extra 1000hp might get the VEYRON to 275mph... but a roadster.... it would struggle to keep up with a stock Veyron on the big end....
 
Honestly, they just had an SS version of the Veyron with 1200hp that did 268. So they picked up 11 mph with 200hp WITH some aero improvements (over the engine bay). Looking at that design there is no way for it to safely get up to those speeds...I don't see anywhere near enough aero to keep that planted to the ground.

My question, other than the obvious "what were they smoking when they came up with those numbers", is why they made the design a roadster, which inherently has less structural rigidity, or needs much more weight to make it as structurally sound as a normal enclosed cabin? If they are going for top numbers, why would they shoot themselves in the foot by the design alone?

It's also hilarious that someone in charge of designing that vehicle has SO little knowledge of how a vehicle actually operates that they were comfortable releasing those bogus numbers to the public. NO street tire is going to be good for a 6-7 second quarter mile time, let alone a 1.5 sec 0-60mph, or a 4 second 0-60-0 time...and none are going to be good for speeds over 300mph. So why wouldn't they just THINK before releasing anything so absurd?
 
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The supercar itself is a custom-designed, 3,000-pound two-seat roadster with a 2,000-horsepower engine. That powerplant would (will?) be the work of Tom Nelson, who builds a wide range of 1,000-plus hp mills for all manner of go-fast conveyances. With those specs and, we're guessing, some number crunching, Transtar has listed "calculated*" performance specs: 0-to-60 in 1.5 seconds, 0-to-60-to-0 in four seconds, 1/4-mile in 6.6 seconds at 204 mph, and a top speed of 314 miles-per-hour.


Can I get some of those TIRES. they must be the stickiest tires on earth, and what no wheelie bar?
 
2k HP isn't super hard anymore if you have the budget.

Big block Ford or Chevy with twin 91s or 94s.... Or go with a single Turbonetics 122+mm and you will make that power all day.

BTW, I totally think this can happen. Nobody would have DREAMED even a few years ago that drag radial tired cars would be going in the 6s in the 1/4 mile, either... 5 years ago if you would have stood with a bunch of hardcore racers and said this you would have been laughed to derision... Now look what's happened? You got a good ole' southern hillbilly named Wolf who is putting down well over 2000hp to a radial tire and getting it down the track. With advanced traction control (like Wolf is using on his car) this can happen.

It may not happen in a roadster style vehicle, but in a hardtop? Yes sir. Its possible.
 
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It'd have to have one of the most jacked up gear ratios ever...like a quick 1-4 for the acceleration times and a REALLY tall 5th and 6th for the top speed.
 
seeing as they are having Nelson racing engines do the engine, the HP won't be an issue. Can they put the power down? we'll see. At least we know it'll be some badass american muscle in there :D


The supercar itself is a custom-designed, 3,000-pound two-seat roadster with a 2,000-horsepower engine.

better be 600+ ci and have twin turbos on it and or it is not going to run on pump fuel. or it will have to be a TT 400ci 12,000 sb to make that kind of rpm to make that much hp.
either way. 2000hp claims are pretty unbelivable.not to mention not terrifcally durable in anything but a 600+ci engine and if it has to be street able it won't be able to turn the rpm to hit the power so ad boost and exspensive race fuels.
 
x4000

It takes a completely different car to go mid 6's as it takes to go over 300mph. That car's not going to do either of them.

What I bet it will do is stomp the hell out of the dyno and give the dyno nerds something to be happy about. Nelson racing engines can make the power, 2k HP isn't super hard anymore if you have the budget.

its a whole different ball game in a top speed run. thats like building a 2000hp reliable marine gas engine. Sort of a joke really.
 
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