Jalopnik tests the SRT8 Lineup

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Mike Spinelli —Chrysler's newly-anointed SRT boss Ralph Gilles and his product-and-engineering ninjas invited us out to Willow Springs, a fast, technical track in California's high desert, to check out their full line of muscle cars.

They've slammed out new versions of four of Chrysler's updated product line — the Dodge Charger, Jeep Grand Cherokee and Chrysler 300C — plus the Challenger SRT8 392 — in record time. But are they fully cooked, or half baked? I drove all four on track and across LA County's pretzely Angeles Crest Highway this week.

2012 Chrysler 300C SRT8

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Here's the weird thing about the 2012 Chrysler 300C SRT8. I did my fastest lap around Willow Springs in this limo, according to SRT's new Electronic Vehicle Information Center. That's a console-screen app whose "performance pages" provide readouts on 0-60 mph time, 60-0 mph braking, G-forces, one-eighth mile and quarter-mile times.

I'm owing that to how planted the 300C felt through Willow's dreaded turns eight and nine, the first a 100mph+ sweeper, with a hint of lumpiness that would make Surtees' knuckles blanche. The second is a decreasing-radius widowmaker, known to toss unsuspecting wheelmen into a concrete wall nearby.

Of course, the extra confidence could have been a function of the XM-borne hair metal blasting from the 300C's 900-watt, 19-speaker Harman Kardon audio system. It works for fighter pilots.

The 300C and Charger are brothers-in-wheelbase, but I happen to think the 300C is the best looking of the bunch.

2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8

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An interesting thing about driving all the SRT behemoths together is that you can tell which one's the least, er, behemothy. The 2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392's wheelbase is four inches shorter than the Charger's and 300C's, which translates — using the butt-o-meter — into quicker rotations. Indeed, the Challenger feels far more nimble than its predecessor, by big leaps. Yes, we're surprised too.

While fun to muscle around the track, the Challenger really shines — and I can't believe I'm writing this — on the serpentine trail of Angeles Crest. The joke's on me as I'm slinging the thing around blind esses like it's some Brit sled out of Chapman's workshop. It's definitely a head-scratcher.

Having driven both manual and automatic versions, I'm going to give this round to the paddle-selected slushbox. Blasphemy, you say? Indeed. And yet, whoever tuned the algorithms on this old Mercedes-Benz 5G-TRONIC deserves a Wall Street bonus. It's responsive, both upward and downward, leaving more sensory cycles available for keeping that giant hood pointed correctly. We'll save our harping on using a transmission from the mid-'90s for another day.

On track, the Challenger is wickedly fun, but I kept finding myself driving it like the mustachioed villain in a car chase through Beantown, Banacek-style — ignoring lap times, while finding opportunities to back into corners with the traction control off. It's stupid fun.

2012 Dodge Charger SRT8

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Arguably, it's the 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 that benefited the most from SRT's latest makeover. Last time we drove it, back in 2008, we loved it for its brute force, but thought the running gear was "unsettled, jittery, and unpolished." That's all done with. A new adaptive damping system, incorporating Bilstein coilovers, does a tremendous job soaking up the heavy car's former slop.

The suspension changes are most obvious on Willow Spring's Omega series of turns — a punishing, up-and-over section where the car is forced into corners with the suspension alternately weighted and unweighted. Here the Charger feels surprisingly on point.

As for the Hemi, let's get the specs out of the way, right up front. SRT's spent a bit of brain currency pulling out more low-end torque. The new, 6.4-liter Hemi gets a trick active-intake manifold using two different lengths of intake runners. They've also added a high-lift camshaft with cam phasing, all of which adds 80 lb.-ft. of torque at 2,900 rpm. Horsepower's up to 470, with torque peaking at 470, an 11 percent and 12 percent increase, respectively. Yes, the muscle is there. Are we being petty to have hoped for a solid 500?

The Charger also gets the best-looking dash cluster of the bunch, with a new, SRT-only steering wheel providing a much-needed tactile connection to what's happening underneath. Yes, they listened.

2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8

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Ok, so here's the thing. The new Grand Cherokee SRT8 kicks ass. It eats racetrack tarmac in Joey Chestnutt-sized bites, then spits chunks in your face while it's giving you the drill sergeant treatment for not trusting it to carry more speed in the corners than you did. You're as useful as a football bat, you maggot. It's that much of an improvement over the previous model.

At a curb weight of 5,150, we're talking 'saurus-sized forces acting on the Cherokee's running bits during changes in direction. And still, the thing can pull 0.9Gs on the skid pad. It takes a lot of hardware, software and sensors to keep everything rotating properly. The electronic rear diff vectors torque between the rear wheels, locking up fully when ESP notices you're braking under a sharp steering angle. That last bit will both make the assist for trail braking on track, and also keep panicky commuters out of the weeds.

The Jeep shares massive Brembo brakes (15" x six piston front; 13.78" x four piston rear) with the other SRTs. Necessary, very necessary. They work. Enough said.

While disorientating to look down on creation from SUV level, the Cherokee in Track Mode is remarkably tossable. Perhaps not as precise as its heighty-weighty competitors from BMW and Porsche, but it's still a ton of fun. Make that 2.5 tons.
 
No offense, but Jalopnik is the TMZ of auto news and has a corresponding amount of credibility. This is the same glorified blog that just ran a video claiming a guy with a Veyron SuperSport punked out on a 1 minute course with a 30 second lead because he was afraid a Hennessey Venom GT would catch it. Riiiight.
 
I respect the way they went all-in with the LED's in the rear lamps. Those are BIG bucks for a volume car. Non-LED lamps might cost $50 total for all three lamps in the rear. That LED back end is probably $200-$250 easy. If it has HID headlamps, that is another $400 per car. So $600 for lighting alone. When I worked at Chrysler we did the entire PT Cruiser lighting for $100 to put it in perspective.

-Geoff
 
There is a new white Charger RT that runs around here, sure looks nice. I love the tail lamps at night.
 
I respect the way they went all-in with the LED's in the rear lamps. Those are BIG bucks for a volume car. Non-LED lamps might cost $50 total for all three lamps in the rear. That LED back end is probably $200-$250 easy. If it has HID headlamps, that is another $400 per car. So $600 for lighting alone. When I worked at Chrysler we did the entire PT Cruiser lighting for $100 to put it in perspective.

-Geoff

Yeah, I've heard all about how Chrysler engineers would make various proposals, pros/cons, etc to the DCX bosses and they would always just say "Which one costs less? Go with that."
 
No offense, but Jalopnik is the TMZ of auto news and has a corresponding amount of credibility. This is the same glorified blog that just ran a video claiming a guy with a Veyron SuperSport punked out on a 1 minute course with a 30 second lead because he was afraid a Hennessey Venom GT would catch it. Riiiight.

I realize that. However, I'm fairly confident the more legit reviews will be equally positive
 
Exciting write-up, but I guess that's the point. Better though than the sarcastic dribble about American cars in the past. A story like that will drive sales, intended or not. I was a fan of the 392 when it was a 550 hp crate motor a couple years back so I'm enthralled by these street versions. Just wish they weren't all so HEAVY.
 
That Charger SRT looks absofuckinglutely amazing. I've been tossing up the idea of getting rid of the Jeep for something more fun. That Charger and 300 are near the top, if not the top of the list of replacements. You can say what you want about the past Chrysler, but their products don't look anything like the competition, they have the great power to back it up, and they are 100% better than previous models. That being said, nothing is being said about fuel economy on these. It's one thing to put something out and have it get 15 mpg down Mt Everest with a tailwind and another to do something like GM has with the Vette where people are reporting high 20's mpg on the highway. My Jeep wishes it could get the EPA sticker ratings. Something Chyrsler just seems to suck at.
 
That Charger SRT looks absofuckinglutely amazing. I've been tossing up the idea of getting rid of the Jeep for something more fun. That Charger and 300 are near the top, if not the top of the list of replacements. You can say what you want about the past Chrysler, but their products don't look anything like the competition, they have the great power to back it up, and they are 100% better than previous models. That being said, nothing is being said about fuel economy on these. It's one thing to put something out and have it get 15 mpg down Mt Everest with a tailwind and another to do something like GM has with the Vette where people are reporting high 20's mpg on the highway. My Jeep wishes it could get the EPA sticker ratings. Something Chyrsler just seems to suck at.

I've been getting a steady 14+ out of my SRT8
 
The Challenger would look a hundred times better if they cut about 5-6 inches off the bottom of the car and slammed it. It's like the purposely made it with those huge slabs of sides. Ugh.

What are the prices on all those cars? $45k each?
 
The Challenger would look a hundred times better if they cut about 5-6 inches off the bottom of the car and slammed it. It's like the purposely made it with those huge slabs of sides. Ugh.

What are the prices on all those cars? $45k each?

I agree on the "thickness" look. And yes, I'm guessing an easy 45k.
 
Top o the line Charger R/T is about 37k, so I'm guessing Charger will be 45k. I wouldn't be suprised if the 300 pushes closer to 50k.
 
Fully loaded 300 C is 45k. Not sure what the 300 S will be, but can't imagine it'd be too far off that. So my guess is 300 srt is going to be 55 to 60.
 
plus dealer markup

And that's the problem with stealerships. The local Chrysler dealer has a mark up on everything of at least $2K. Even base level Calibers. "Market Adjustment" And the dealer was curious why I bought mine in Detroit.
 
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