LITTLEMAGS
Club Member
I need advice on SFI harnesses...I heard the Y mount is illegal now and need wrap around type. I saw on the team z website the 2" ones? I thought you had to have 3" ones???
harness question
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Birdie2000
Club Member
Man I hope not; I was hoping to just have my old ones recertified.
LITTLEMAGS
Club Member
10: Driver
Section 1A NHRA Summit Series
Super Pro, Pro, Sportsman (7.50 & slower)
HELMET
Drivers in all 13.99 (8.59) or quicker cars must wear a helmet meeting Snell K98, 2000, 2005
NECK COLLAR
Neck collar meeting SFI Spec 3.3 mandatory in all cars running 9.99 (6.39) or quicker or cars exceeding 135 mph. A head and neck restrant device/system may be used in lieu of a neck collar.
PROTECTIVE CLOTHING
Shorts, bare legs, tank tops, or bare torsos prohibited when driving in competition. All drivers are required to wear-full length pants, shoes, and socks. Nylon or nylon-type clothing and open-toe shoes prohibited.
10.00 (6.40) to 13.99 (8.59) all E.T. non- OEM supercharged, non-OEM turbocharged, or nitrous-equipped cars with an OEM or .024" steel firewall: Jacket meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory.
9.99 (6.39) to 7.50 (4.50) front-engine, open-bodied vehicles (or closed-bodied without an OEM or full .024" steel firewall) with nitrous, supercharged, or turbocharged: Jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/15, gloves, and shoes or boots meeting SFI Spec 3.3/5 mandatory.
10.00 (6.40) to 11.49 (7.35); all E.T. naturally aspirated, OEM supercharged, or OEM turbocharged with full OEM or .024" steel firewall: Jacket meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory
9.99 (6.39) to 7.50 (4.50) or any vehicle exceeding 135 mph: Jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/5 and gloves meeting SFI Spec 3.3/1 mandatory, except as noted above.
10:5 Drivers restraint Systems
A quick release, 3" shoulder harness meeting SFI Spec 16.1 is mandatory in all cars in competion required by the rules to have a rollbar/cage. Drivers restraint system must be clearly labled as meeting SFI Spec 16.1 and be dated by manufacture. SFI Spec16.1 Y-type belts prohibited. Systems must be updated at two-year intervals from date manufacture. All harness sections must be mounted to the frame, crossmember, or reinforced mounting, and installed to limit driver's body travel both upward and forward. seat belts may not be wraped around lower framerails. Under no circumstances are bolts inserted through belt webbing permitted for mounting.
Seat belt mandatory in all cars. Three-inch driver restraint system meeting SFI Spec 16.1 mandatory in any car running 11.49 (7.35) or quicker. SFI 16.1 restraint system, when required, includes crotch strap and must be updated at two-year intervals from date of manufacture
10:11 seat Belts
All cars in competion requiring a roll bar or roll cage, require a 5 pt, 3" wide SFI 16.1 restraint system
Section 1A NHRA Summit Series
Super Pro, Pro, Sportsman (7.50 & slower)
HELMET
Drivers in all 13.99 (8.59) or quicker cars must wear a helmet meeting Snell K98, 2000, 2005
NECK COLLAR
Neck collar meeting SFI Spec 3.3 mandatory in all cars running 9.99 (6.39) or quicker or cars exceeding 135 mph. A head and neck restrant device/system may be used in lieu of a neck collar.
PROTECTIVE CLOTHING
Shorts, bare legs, tank tops, or bare torsos prohibited when driving in competition. All drivers are required to wear-full length pants, shoes, and socks. Nylon or nylon-type clothing and open-toe shoes prohibited.
10.00 (6.40) to 13.99 (8.59) all E.T. non- OEM supercharged, non-OEM turbocharged, or nitrous-equipped cars with an OEM or .024" steel firewall: Jacket meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory.
9.99 (6.39) to 7.50 (4.50) front-engine, open-bodied vehicles (or closed-bodied without an OEM or full .024" steel firewall) with nitrous, supercharged, or turbocharged: Jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/15, gloves, and shoes or boots meeting SFI Spec 3.3/5 mandatory.
10.00 (6.40) to 11.49 (7.35); all E.T. naturally aspirated, OEM supercharged, or OEM turbocharged with full OEM or .024" steel firewall: Jacket meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory
9.99 (6.39) to 7.50 (4.50) or any vehicle exceeding 135 mph: Jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/5 and gloves meeting SFI Spec 3.3/1 mandatory, except as noted above.
10:5 Drivers restraint Systems
A quick release, 3" shoulder harness meeting SFI Spec 16.1 is mandatory in all cars in competion required by the rules to have a rollbar/cage. Drivers restraint system must be clearly labled as meeting SFI Spec 16.1 and be dated by manufacture. SFI Spec16.1 Y-type belts prohibited. Systems must be updated at two-year intervals from date manufacture. All harness sections must be mounted to the frame, crossmember, or reinforced mounting, and installed to limit driver's body travel both upward and forward. seat belts may not be wraped around lower framerails. Under no circumstances are bolts inserted through belt webbing permitted for mounting.
Seat belt mandatory in all cars. Three-inch driver restraint system meeting SFI Spec 16.1 mandatory in any car running 11.49 (7.35) or quicker. SFI 16.1 restraint system, when required, includes crotch strap and must be updated at two-year intervals from date of manufacture
10:11 seat Belts
All cars in competion requiring a roll bar or roll cage, require a 5 pt, 3" wide SFI 16.1 restraint system
soap
Forum Member
I put in 3" 5 point harnesses in my car last winter. The shoulder harnesses are attached at two points for each seat to the rear cross bar of my rollbar. Corbeau seats and harnesses.....they are SFI 16.1 with cam lock hubs.
I don't even like Y harnesses.......they dig into your neck.
Not really sure if that helps at all.........let me know if you need some more info.
--Joe
I don't even like Y harnesses.......they dig into your neck.
Not really sure if that helps at all.........let me know if you need some more info.
--Joe
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Birdie2000
Club Member
Shit, there's one more expense. 
I have Kirkey's and everything is mounted so that the Y is nowhere near my neck. Unfortunately I have the cam locks too so I'm out even more money.
I have Kirkey's and everything is mounted so that the Y is nowhere near my neck. Unfortunately I have the cam locks too so I'm out even more money.
Birdie2000
Club Member
On a side note, I like the RJS ones. You can get them from a lot of different places and they're based out of Hazel Park. Usually significantly cheaper than some of the other brands, and you can get them recertified every two years instead of having to buy whole new ones.
LITTLEMAGS
Club Member
Joe...yeah it does...but here is the question...I dont have TABS welded to rear bar and someone said to use the "wraparound kind"...
I "ASSUME"?? they wrap around the bar behind the seat...then bolt to floor where seat belt would go, then under the seat for the crotch strap...does that sound right?
Birdie2000
Club Member
Sounds right to me. What I've typically seen done under the seat is to weld a plate with a threaded hole to the floor bracing between the two front seat bolts. That's how the chassis guy did it on mine anyways when my 6pt. bar was installed.
LITTLEMAGS
Club Member
I bought the crotch brace from UPR already. Just need to know WHAT harnesses to buy now.
soap
Forum Member
Yes that sounds right. But (at least in my car) the OEM lap belt attachement is mounted to the OEM seat/power slider, so if you go to aftermarket seats and remove the heavy OEM power slider there is no provision to mount the new lap belts from the harness. So I drilled new holes in the floor and used huge ass washers on both sides of the floor pan. All hardware has to be grade 8 stuff too.
Also if you use the wrap around style for the shoulder straps they can "slide" along the bar and therefore will not pass tech.......that is why I welded the tabs on my bar. They do sell harness stops if you do decide to use the wrap around style. I attached a picture to show what I am talking about.
If you want I can take some pictures and email them to you. PM me your email addy if you want.
--Joe
