Grassroots Motorsports Drag Car

Insomnya3AM

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You-Design-It Drag Project

How's it going, folks?

Let me give you the lowdown real quick:

I'm entering the Grassroots challenge, I have a little less than a year until the competition.

You have to build a car that can drag, autocross and look good in a concourse for under $2007. Anything you get for free has to be listed in your budget at "Fair Market Value". If your FMV is not fair, they'll DQ you. You can ask before the event, no guessing there.

You can recoupe up to $1003 by selling things off of your car, so you basically have $301o; that is if your car or "parts deal" has something valuable you can hock.

I'm not aiming too high for my first competition, but we're looking to crush one event and do it originally.

Concourse takes meticulous bodywork and a general self-hatred attitude. Autocross takes tons of suspension tuning and autocross experience that we just don't have yet.

So that leaves being dirty fast on the dragstrip. The time that won the dragstrip event last time was a 10.53 ET. Second place was like 10.89. The others were >11.5; Most being >16


Any production passenger car is allowed. The only exception to that is Zambonis; they're allowed and it's never been done.

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So basically, wouldn't you come over to talk to MotownMuscle about a drag car? I think it's a good choice :badass: What would you guys do?

We have a pretty solid plan in the works, but it has a few issues.
We're looking at a notchback foxbody with a 32V DOHC motor out of the Mark8. Combine that with a T-56 from a Cobra and two turbos from two Turbocoupes and you have something pretty quick. All of the parts can be obtained pretty cheaply. Not going to lie, budget would be tough on this one. We'd like a little more margin on the cash side of things. We haven't bought a single part yet, so this plan is totally conceptual. We're more than willing to change.

The combo doesn't NEED to be reliable, but it's preferred. Firecracker cars are looked down upon by the community. We'd also like to do a ton of testing prior to the event.



So again, what do you guys see when you think of this? There has to be some solid suggestions. I'm a Chevy man myself, but I'll do something off the wall if need be. The concourse isn't just about pretty cars, that's where you get the individuality points too!

This'll be built at SpeedDetroit, my shop. I'm looking for allies from all reaches of Michigan, your participation is greatly appreciated! If you lend a hand, I think I'm setting up a "sign the deck" type of deal.

Let's have it. Thanks in advance!
 
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How about a turbo 4 cylinder in a foxbody coupe with a small hit (50) of spray? It's be light would do well in the auto-x and is a little different. Or try a 302 twin turbo (from t-bird)set-up. :dunno: Just a few thoughts.
 
A perfect 32V motor can be had as cheap or cheaper than a great 302. The junkyard I go to looks at both the same way.

The turbo 4cyl car wouldn't be 10 seconds fast. I thought about it, we have some of those parts laying around too. Not quick enough.
 
hey i can help with turning wrenches and doing body work if need be,

also how do the rules go about for making your own stuff, headers, suspension parts, sheet metal intake stuff like that?
 
You can make anything you want. That's a huge part of it.
You just need to add in the cost of supplies.
It'd be awesome if you helped out!
Give me a call sometime 313-779-3920
 
Insomnya3AM said:
A perfect 32V motor can be had as cheap or cheaper than a great 302. The junkyard I go to looks at both the same way.

The turbo 4cyl car wouldn't be 10 seconds fast. I thought about it, we have some of those parts laying around too. Not quick enough.

How about a 5.4? Fitment would be a pain though. I know a Mustang did one and it was in the tens.
 
The stick will slow down a turbo car at the track, plus a T-56 combination by itself is worth $2000. Put a c4 in there.
 
would it be cheaper and better to run 1 turbo of a dodge cummins motor? i was told there rather large
 
The deal is that the Cummins turbos are pretty expensive. I can get ahold of a bundle of T3's from a Turbocoupe for very cheap.
 
eff that

conqest ftw but i doubt we could get one chepaest one i kno is like 3500

but i think the twin turbo mustang would be good

Insomnya3AM whats ur real name so when i call u tomarrow im now like hey is this Insomnya3am? expect a call around 6pm
 
I have a Conquest. Got it for $160
Not looking to use that for the challenge though, there are mucb better chassis.

I'm Andrew
 
its hard to get power from a conquest. with free mods you can get a turbo rx7 into the 13s with a full interior, gutted those cars weigh under 2300lbs, and the gutted omnis weigh under 1600lbs, and its easy to make good power with those too.
 
Ortontucky Terror said:
its hard to get power from a conquest. with free mods you can get a turbo rx7 into the 13s with a full interior, gutted those cars weigh under 2300lbs, and the gutted omnis weigh under 1600lbs, and its easy to make good power with those too.

If I went RX-7, it wouldn't have anything near the stock motor. It would be V8 swapped, it would have to be. You have to run low 10s to be competitive.

We're researching the gasser route as of right now..
 
Insomnya3AM said:
If I went RX-7, it wouldn't have anything near the stock motor. It would be V8 swapped, it would have to be. You have to run low 10s to be competitive.

We're researching the gasser route as of right now..



!!!!!!

io think i jsut pissed my pants alittle bit
 
I like the idea of a v8 in a rx7. Toss a turbo on top of that and i'm sure you'll be pretty close to your goal.
 
juicedz said:
I like the idea of a v8 in a rx7. Toss a turbo on top of that and i'm sure you'll be pretty close to your goal.

Yeah, we are leaning on that.
Trying to narrow the plans down to a few good ones.
Either a gasser with a terribly big motor and some juice or an RX-7 with a SBC and boost/juice. :icon_mrgr
Not to say I'm not open to ideas.
I think I'm going to be friggin' famous if I can pull a 9-second pass for under $2k.
 
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