Damn Microsoft

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Why is it everytime I update my computer with the automatic updates, I have lost some functions? :pissed: :pissed: This afternoon I lost my touch pad (laptop), a few mounth ago I lost sound. Maybe I should get a Mac and have no problems at all.
 
Having a Mac doesn't absolve you of issues. They are just issues that you can't do anything about. Plus, you have to find software. Don't get me wrong, Mac's are great little machines.

If you are a cheese-eating surrender monkey.
 
I have worked IT for ten years. F Micro$haft. Thankfully M$ and other companies write crap software so that I can make good money fixing peoples windows-based computers.

I have a Macbook Pro that I use daily. I even use it to fix M$ machines.

Don't let people tell you the Macs don't have software. They do, and a lot of it is open source (i.e. free). You tell me what you need to do and I can get you an app on a Mac to do it.

You may a little more for Macs up front but the ease of use and trouble free computing (no viruses) is more than worth it.
 
x4bngr said:
I have worked IT for ten years. F Micro$haft. Thankfully M$ and other companies write crap software so that I can make good money fixing peoples windows-based computers.

I have a Macbook Pro that I use daily. I even use it to fix M$ machines.

Don't let people tell you the Macs don't have software. They do, and a lot of it is open source (i.e. free). You tell me what you need to do and I can get you an app on a Mac to do it.

You may a little more for Macs up front but the ease of use and trouble free computing (no viruses) is more than worth it.
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I have heard Mac's are great and all. You need to learn how to take care and do maintenance on your Windows machine as usual, but no one can deny that there are no bugs. I have been building and working on computers for quite a few years now, mostly as a hobby, and my windows experience has been pretty great. I used windows 2k prof for many years and switched over to XP SP2 when it came out and that has been running great ever since. The reason why I will never by a Mac is that there is no customization or parts what so ever for them. I dont want something that someone else built. I want to mess with it, learn, and put my own stuff inside it. Also, I like to play high end games and I never hear about them coming out for a Mac. I could be wrong though.
 
IT-Purrrs said:
Also, I like to play high end games and I never hear about them coming out for a Mac. I could be wrong though.
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They do come out...a few years down the road after the PC release. Most people that buy Macs dont buy them to play games. Im a PC user myself, but each has their advantages and disadvantages. Macs are the epitomy of a proprietary machine, but most of that is because of the OS. Anytime I think of a Mac...I think of that old Apple IIe baack in elementary school.
 
x4bngr said:
I have worked IT for ten years. F Micro$haft. Thankfully M$ and other companies write crap software so that I can make good money fixing peoples windows-based computers.

I have a Macbook Pro that I use daily. I even use it to fix M$ machines.

Don't let people tell you the Macs don't have software. They do, and a lot of it is open source (i.e. free). You tell me what you need to do and I can get you an app on a Mac to do it.

You may a little more for Macs up front but the ease of use and trouble free computing (no viruses) is more than worth it.
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I hate Microsoft too. But I still stay away from Mac's. Proprietary hardware is no better than a proprietary OS. Microsoft owns Apple, nuff said on that.

I run SUSE Linux 10 on my laptop, and several of the servers at the office. I'm going to be migrating the Netware boxes to Linux in the next 6-12 months.

Unless you are going to be doing hardcore graphics or desktop publishing, you are wasting your time and money on a Mac. For every Mac out there, there are 1,000 x86 IBM's.
 
GeosRide said:
I hate Microsoft too. But I still stay away from Mac's. Proprietary hardware is no better than a proprietary OS. Microsoft owns Apple, nuff said on that.

I run SUSE Linux 10 on my laptop, and several of the servers at the office. I'm going to be migrating the Netware boxes to Linux in the next 6-12 months.

Unless you are going to be doing hardcore graphics or desktop publishing, you are wasting your time and money on a Mac. For every Mac out there, there are 1,000 x86 IBM's.
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...And for every 1000 x86 Microsoft machines you have 1000 anti-virus programs, 1000 anti-spyware programs, 1000 monthly OS patches.... see a trend here?

Closed hardware systems have advantages. Less crap software written by people who can barely write "hello world" apps. No driver compatibility issues. No hardware compatibility issues.

I run Ubuntu on my work laptop and home PCs. Why? I am tired of crap software and Microsoft's anti-competitive, monopolistic practices. My hope is that M$ is irrelevant in 10 to 15 years and is replaced by a strong Linux variant.
 
x4bngr said:
...And for every 1000 x86 Microsoft machines you have 1000 anti-virus programs, 1000 anti-spyware programs, 1000 monthly OS patches.... see a trend here?

Closed hardware systems have advantages. Less crap software written by people who can barely write "hello world" apps. No driver compatibility issues. No hardware compatibility issues.

I run Ubuntu on my work laptop and home PCs. Why? I am tired of crap software and Microsoft's anti-competitive, monopolistic practices. My hope is that M$ is irrelevant in 10 to 15 years and is replaced by a strong Linux variant.
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Doesn't matter. If Mac's were used as widely or more widely than windows based pc's, there would be viruses targeted for them. It's a numbers issue there. I don't hate Mac's, I just choose not to use them because I like Windows better than Mac OS.
 
Sure I see a trend. But a *large* part of it isn't the OS, it's the user. Granted, there are exploits out there that work on some vulnerability that's in the code but it still requires the person between the keyboard and the chair to do something to let it in. And the only solution to that is removing the computer from their possession. Since that isn't happening, we find ourselves needing software to protect the software from the user. It's a vicious circle that keeps the IT world going. People think this shit is easy. Guess again.

Closed hardware systems also lock you to their solutions. I don't like to have to worry about what if they fold up shop. I mean, it could've easily happened when Microsoft bought a controlling share of Apple. Apple is starting to use x86 chips in their hardware. The best thing they had going for them is that they ran RISC processors. Fucking Microsoft again FTL.

I've worked with computers since the age of 8. I was pulling apart and reassembling IBM XT's in my uncle's garage in NY. I am an MCSE and have been since 1999. Worst money I've ever spent on myself. I run our email system where I work, it's a good gig. I got my CCNA, that was at least somewhat worth it. I know Novell and most of their apps very well, and I can run GroupWise like no other. The thing that keeps me busy are people who should probably get a license to operate electronic devices.
 
Using a mac is a little different then using a PC, its not so much operating the computer as it is tricking it, fooling it, into doing what it is you really want to do. You kinda have to sneak up on a mac. lmao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEAGmBRC1dc

All in all ive used both quite a bit and I will never leave my MS machine, I just don't like the "feel" of a mac. And i play games and build my own boxes alot too so macs are out.
 
tonez said:
Doesn't matter. If Mac's were used as widely or more widely than windows based pc's, there would be viruses targeted for them. It's a numbers issue there. I don't hate Mac's, I just choose not to use them because I like Windows better than Mac OS.
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Exactly what I try and tell people. If Apple had even half the market share that MS has, I'm sure it would be a whole different story. The more exposure, the worse it would be.
No matter what happens, people will always complain about MS. Somebody was complaining the other day they couldn't "tweak" their video card driver on Vista, yet this person would bitch about MS all day if his computer was crashing BECAUSE he was using some off the wall driver.
Apple may have their place in the world, but they DO have problems, and they DO lockup/freeze.
As far as the updates causing problems, just do the High Priority updates, and not the Hardware.
 
Well I have a mac pro with 2 - 2.66 Xeons which = 4 cores. 4GB of ram and almost 1TB of storage. I also have windows vista ultimate running on it when I want to go play bioshock(which plays perfect).

I've been building computers for a little over 10 years now, and I was very comfortable about getting the mac pro.
 
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