Common Receptacles?

[Beigg]

Doing a little bit of updating around the garage and at the point of running new wiring, and receptacles/outlets.
What are the most common and most current plug ends used for 220V welders and compressors these days?

Was thinking of installing a couple 14-60R receptacles or a couple of 15-60R to cover down on the worst case scenario, but I do not want to run into the situation that I end up with a unique outlet that the common welder and compressor doesn’t support.

I do not want to hard wire in any unit, and adapter cords/ends are not acceptable.

Any MM's with very recent new welder and new air compressor purchases?

 

[soap]

Most welders are NEMA 6-50R

--Joe

 

[Hugger Z]

My big compressor came with bare wire. I had to buy a plug and wire it up to plug into the wall outlet. My barn has the standard 3-prong plug like the oven or dryer ones. Doesn't look like the ones you listed but you can find it if you google 60amp plug.

 

[soap]

My big compressor came with bare wire. I had to buy a plug and wire it up to plug into the wall outlet. My barn has the standard 3-prong plug like the oven or dryer ones. Doesn't look like the ones you listed but you can find it if you google 60amp plug.

Why did you wire a compressor to a 60 amp plug? Most compressors are 20-30 amps and the larger ones have to be hardwired (which is why your compressor came with a bare wire).

--Joe

 

[Beigg]

My big compressor came with bare wire. I had to buy a plug and wire it up to plug into the wall outlet. My barn has the standard 3-prong plug like the oven or dryer ones. Doesn't look like the ones you listed but you can find it if you google 60amp plug.

Is your barn a recent build (how long ago if you dont mind) ? In the past, the stove/dryer plugs would require the 'adapter' cable. At least for me at the previous places I've been at. The pin count and size was same, but the one contained verticle pins where as the other one was different.

 

[mustangmike6996]

Usually a 200V welder will have a dedicated plug. This is due to nothing else 9aside from a plasma cutter) needing a 6-50R wall outlet for 50 Amps

As stated above, compressors and other 220 machines are usually 20-30A. If you choose to run all 6-50R you will find that you will need to run the wire accordingly. 8-3 wire is about $7/foot. So measure from the breaker to where you want a welder (about 100-150 in wiring/supplies to run 1 50 amp outlet)

the smaller gauge wire for 220v 20-30 amp wire is about 1/2 of the cost and will do the job you need it for.

 

[Beigg]

Usually a 200V welder will have a dedicated plug. This is due to nothing else 9aside from a plasma cutter) needing a 6-50R wall outlet for 50 Amps

As stated above, compressors and other 220 machines are usually 20-30A. If you choose to run all 6-50R you will find that you will need to run the wire accordingly. 8-3 wire is about $7/foot. So measure from the breaker to where you want a welder (about 100-150 in wiring/supplies to run 1 50 amp outlet)

the smaller gauge wire for 220v 20-30 amp wire is about 1/2 of the cost and will do the job you need it for.

The outlet for the welder is designated to the welder, but the circuit itself is what I am planning out. I don’t know if I should isolate the circuit to feed that outlet only and have nothing else on it, or if tying that circuit to another outlet that would use the same style receptacle (for welder) is appropriate. I can see the argument of why not, but is it a code violation or preference matter? To figure it out now is best than later (dealing with finished walls later). To do the job verses be optimum for the job, bare minimum is the least desired option.

 

[Hugger Z]

Why did you wire a compressor to a 60 amp plug? Most compressors are 20-30 amps and the larger ones have to be hardwired (which is why your compressor came with a bare wire).

--Joe

The wall plug was already in my old garage and also in this barn I have now. I used the plug end on my wire so I wouldn't have to mess around with hard wiring it. Now I can just unplug it and move it. And I did the big plug to make sure I wouldn't have an issue with too small of a plug for the power requirements for my 80gal compressor.

Is your barn a recent build (how long ago if you dont mind) ? In the past, the stove/dryer plugs would require the 'adapter' cable. At least for me at the previous places I've been at. The pin count and size was same, but the one contained verticle pins where as the other one was different.

No clue when this barn was built. It came with the property we bought (house was built 30yrs ago so guessing the barn is 20+ yrs old). My plug fits the wall recepticle and works. We built our horse barn using this compressor to power the nail gun for a bunch of the girt boards.

 

[mustangmike6996]

The outlet for the welder is designated to the welder, but the circuit itself is what I am planning out. I don’t know if I should isolate the circuit to feed that outlet only and have nothing else on it, or if tying that circuit to another outlet that would use the same style receptacle (for welder) is appropriate. I can see the argument of why not, but is it a code violation or preference matter? To figure it out now is best than later (dealing with finished walls later). To do the job verses be optimum for the job, bare minimum is the least desired option.

Well, I think that the way it will work in the eyes of a code inspector is that you have a 50 Amp circuit with 1 50 Amp outlet and correct wire-Good. You have a 50A circuit with the 50A welder outlet plus 2 or 3 more 20ish Amp outlets, you are not good based on circuit load calculations (even if you only use one at a time.

It would be like wiring a dryer and electric stove on the same circuit and justifying it by not running both at the same time. You cant do that because those items require a dedicated outlet. Garage items (as far as I know) dont have rules like kitchen appliances, but the outlet type, wiring, breaker will determine how much is allowed on run of a circuit.

I dont think I know of anyone who has a welder circuit with piggybacked 220v outlets on it. I do know of some that have a welder circuit and another heavy gauge 50A circuit with multiple 220 outlets for compressors and other things that total 50A.